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Mind, only Twitter and LJ keep trying to make me care about celebrities and only LJ keeps boring me with stories about imaginary goats. Facebook and LJ are both pretty big on trying to make me share pictures of imaginary gifts to show I care.

I have a permanent account, so I don't see anything about celebrities OR goats unless I want to.

I don't and I *still* don;t. Why do you see this stuff? I just bookmark my friends group. I never see the front page..

I have a permie account too, but I subscribe to the news user and email so that I can see news. Except it's all "Frank the goat did this blah blah blah, and the new banner is fantastic and wonderful and you can see even fewer of the links than usual now! And there have been a zillion posts to "oh no they didn't" since Brad and Janet split up and we're celebrating by letting you give virtual bouquets to all your friends! Oh yeah, and you can now have your posts show what the weather was like as you were writing if you like, and the limit has been upgraded on how many photographs you can upload to scrapbook, but let's talk about the pretend goats some more!"

You don't seem to have a cross for LJ for "posts can be made private".

Updated the whole row, thanks.

NP. I was reading it before I tagged it for tomorrow's linkpost :->

Security on posts can be edited after the post has been made -- LJ does this, it's a key failure of G+.

And Facebook has the same failing. Plus FB is dodgy about actually correctly applying the security you ask for (like blocking one person from one post and they can still see it >.

FB does its best to make it IMPOSSIBLE to hide anything.

They've also eliminated the easy route for blocking Stupid Game Posts. Used to be you moused over the edge of such posts and you'd have the ability to hide such things from each game entirely. Not so any more.

I have that back now on FB - it went for a while.

My current annoyance is figuring out why people are seeing posts I make to groups that they are not in (and vice versa) - but not ALL such things. I get musical things but not (e.g.)ice hockey or morris minors.

Damn Zuckenberg - I'm perfectly sure the entire way Facebook works, the driver of Facebook's whole philosophy, is because, when he was younger, he got left out of what people were doing, they didn't tell him or invite him and he is on a mission to 'fix' this for everybody else.

and FB doesn't let you edit your OWN posts, just delete them. Which as someone who typ(o)es fast, drives me mental..

Interesting to see it broken down like that.

Me? I dunno, I just like LJ. The microblogging sites seem to be too slapdash for me. LJ is a bit quiet these days, but then a few years back it was clogged with "what kind of asparagus are you?" quizzes. Somewhere in the middle would have been nice.

Ooh! What kind of asparagus ARE you??? Please tell me!

I hated those things and had temporarily forgotten they existed.

"Your curly brockalie! Its way better then asparagus well done!!!"

Personally I'd add a column for LinkedIn, but of course that isn't for everyone.


I have an account on linked in because people kept inviting me to it. I don't use it at all, it is irrelevant to me. Well, I say I don't use it. Once I gave an ex-boss a testimonial, and occasionally I agree that, yes, I really do know somebody or other. But I have no engagement with it.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

LJ also has the option of (third-party) LJ-Book, which lets you turn any range of your LJ into a PDF, with a number of options.

Unfortunately I can't get lj-book to work for me any more. I've tried with as little as the first 6 months of the journal, and it sits there trying for ages, then errors at me with a not very helpful error message. At some point I'll try to go through and to the month at a time xml exports so I have a backup.

Thanks, that's a really useful chart, though sadly LJ seems to be rapidly losing ground on the "There are enough people I signed up to talk to/read still there".

Of course, you left out the important category of "easily post amusing cat pictures".

I hope you don't mind, I took the liberty of re-arranging your table according to the "diagonalisaton" ideas of the late Jacques Bertin. The idea is to show which categories differ most from each other by putting their most distinct properties in opposite corners.

Twitter Facebook Google+ LJ Blogs
Posts can be made private and hidden from strangers ██ ██ ██ ██
Easy to see all recent updates from various people on one screen ██ ██ ██ ██
There are enough people I signed up to talk to/read still there ██ ██ ██ ██
Posts can be directed to select groups (not just "all followers") ██ ██ ██
Long form content can be posted ██ ██ ██ ██
Easy to see both sides of the conversations the people you follow have ██ ██ ██ ██
Easy to see all content from an individual ██ ██ ██ ██ ██
Posts containing more than one inline link and picture can be made ██ ██ ██
Old content can be discovered by date searches and bookmarked ██ ██
Comments on posts are threaded in at-a-glance conversational order ██ ██
Posts can be formatted as the user wants them to look using html ██ ██
Doesn't go down regularly for upgrades/DDOS attacks ██ ██

Note that Google+ is currently fine in the DDoS area but it's also brand spankin' new and -- presumably -- supported by extremely massive server bandwidth that probably makes LJ's look like my home line's capability. If Google+ DOES take off and become something on FB's level, I wouldn't be surprised to see DDoS attacks start up.

Yeah, it's just meant as a snapshot of now, really. I expect Google have a lot of knowhow and good ways of routing around DDOS attacks - I can't imagine their search engine isn't a target. I would expect issues, but think it's probably more robust and able to take them better than LJ can and probably better than Facebook too.

Don't mind at all. Glad it's sparked interest.

Hmmm, looks like LJ won't allow inline CSS in comments. Maybe that should be a line in the matrix!

Thanks. Some people get annoyed when I "improve" their work.

This is a great assessment - I would just make 2 adjustments - although for one I think I'm reading what you're saying wrong. Anyway, in wordpress they now have a subscriptions page where you can read updates from other blogs you want to read something akin to a friends page - however you can't respond to a specific comment - you can simple respond to a comment by answering in a comment to the blog - therefore the person doesn't know that you have responded to them.

That's a problem of lumping together so many things. Maybe Wordpress is significantly different to separate out, but in my experience blogs and personal sites can do threaded comments, and I wasn't aware of the "subscriptions" page, but it only applies to Wordpress, you can't do it with other sites, so I think I'll leave it as it stands. It's certainly not set up with that as an aim, it's all about the single broadcaster with multiple subscribers.

I have to admit that WP would be my preferred alternative but LJ is much more flexible and although it has quietened down alot of late I'll still be sticking with it.


Might not be relevant to you, but I like 'fully flexible anonymity model' too.

On the "posts can be made private" line--on Twitter, you can make all your posts public, or all your posts private. You can do exactly the same on Blogger.

On Wordpress, you can password protect the post, or set it so that only logged in users can see specific content (a friend of mine does the latter for some but not all of his content).

Based on that, I'd say that either Twitter needs the X removing or blogs need the X adding. Or the line needs splitting into two as the granularity allowed by LJ/DW, G+ and FB is much better than that allowed by Twitter and most other blog platforms.

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